Inside PR #131 – Wednesday, October 1, 2008

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, and Julie Rusciolelli define the broad scope of Public Relations and discuss the tactics that are involved in it.

Show Notes

00:33 Dave opens the show.

01:20 Housekeeping: Dave mentions that For Immediate Release, a bi-weekly podcast hosted by Neville Hobson and Shel Holtz, is having a listener contest to win tickets to one of two conferences, the first in Berlin, Germany at the end of October and the second in Los Angeles, California in November. To enter, upload a video (in any format, but do not email) that conveys a thought, a concept or an idea in imaginative ways.

03:17 Dave mentions that Third Tuesday is back in Toronto and Ottawa.
Niall Cook
,  Worldwide Director of Marketing Technology at Hill and Knowlton will be at Third Tuesday Toronto on October 7 and Third Tuesday Ottawa on October 8 to discuss his book Enterprise 2.0.

05:17 Terry introduces a comment from Harvey Skolnick, a marketing professor at Sheridan College.

06:47 Harvey’s comment proposes a topic for the show: Defining how broad the scope of public relations actually is.

08:21 Terry introduces five major segments of PR: 1) Media Relations, 2) Government Relations, 3) Stakeholder Relations (alliance building), 4) Investor Relations and 5) Internal/Employee Communications.

08:48 Terry talks about Media Relations.

09:14 Terry discusses Government Relations.

10:05 Julie talks about Stakeholder Relations.

11:26 Julie discusses Investor Relations.

12:10 Terry discusses Investor Relations.

12:45 Dave talks about Internal/Employee Communications.

14:45 Dave introduces the subject of PR tactics and begins with the tactic of writing.

15:56 Julie discusses writing.

16:20 Julie talks about a second PR tactic; event management.

20:04 Terry discusses two other PR tactics; media intelligence and media preparedness.

22:40 Terry discusses the final PR tactic; social media and the online space.

27:18 Terry summarizes the show topic.

27:55 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #130 – Wednesday, September 24, 2008

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman discuss the topic of Word of Mouth, suggested by Bob Crawshaw of Maine Steet Marketing.

Show Notes

00:27 Terry opens the show.

2:24 Housekeeping: Terry introduces the first of two comments.
Brent Kinnaird at the Hamilton Port Authority left a comment about Inside PR # 129 not being up.
*Inside PR #129, is currently only available on some computers, but, for subscribers, is still available on Itunes. We are looking into it.*

5:16 Terry introduces the second comment from Bob Crawshaw of Maine Steet Marketing, who suggests that Inside PR discuss Word of Mouth (WOM).

10:06 Terry mentions WOM expert Sean Moffitt who runs Agent Wildfire.

10:33 Martin talks about WOM.

11:03 Terry talks about WOM.

11:56 Terry reads from Agent Wildfire’s website.

12:49 Terry mentions research on trust and gives the example of the Edelman Trust Barometer.

14:05 Martin talks about WOM in terms of Social Networking sites such as LinkedIn and Twitter.

17:41 Martin mentions that anyone who is interested in WOM should read Malcolm Gladwell‘s book, The Tipping Point.

22:50 Terry mentions Sean Moffitt’s involment with WOMMA and his blog Buzz Canuck.

23:45 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #129 – Wednesday, September 17, 2008

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This week on Inside PR Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss the reasons they began their PR businesses, Palette Public Relations and MAVERICK and the five signs you should start your own PR business.

Show Notes

00:26 Martin opens the show

02:11 Martin introduces the show topic: Why you would want to start a PR business and the signs that you should start a PR business.

02:58 Martin introduces the first sign: When you love your job but hate going into work

05:44 Julie discusses the second sign: When your job becomes too easy and you feel as though you are almost on autopilot

06:38 Martin discusses the third sign: Taking the little things too seriously

10:09 Julie introduces the fourth sign: Culture shock: the culture you want to create is at odds with that of the existing agency

14:08 Martin discusses the last sign: An entrepreneurial calling

20:09 Martin recaps the five signs you should start your own PR business.

21:20 Martin and Julie close the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #123 – Wednesday, August 7, 2008

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This week on Inside PR, David Jones, Terry Fallis and Julie Rusciolelli discuss the market reality for talent in agencies.

Show Notes

00:29 Dave opens the show.

01:42 Dave starts the conversation about the reality of the market for agency talent.

04:19 There are four core responsibilities in the agency market: account service, account management, account leadership and agency leadership.

04:58 Dave summarizes account services responsibilities.

08:12 Terry begins the talk on account management.

13:58 Dave defines the account management responsibilities.

15:13 The panel discusses the account leader and account leadership.

26:22 Dave sums up with group and agency leadership and the ultimate responsibility of being in these roles.

33:18 Terry wraps up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

Inside PR #121 – Wednesday, July 23, 2008

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss the
importance of fit and personality in an agency and how to know when a potential hire will “fit in”.

Show Notes

00:37 Terry opens the show.

01:51 Terry talks about the iTunes issue.

02:34 Terry introduces a comment from Josh Turner of Trillium Corporate Communications.

04:50 Terry lays down the main topics of the show: How important are fit and personality in an agency setting and how do you know when a potential hire will “fit in”?

06:16 Martin talks about Caliper Canada and Caliper testing.

07:37 Julie talks about her experiences using the test.

14:21 Terry asks about bringing on a new hire who has a great client record, but alienates colleagues.

18:52 Julie opens talks on how you know a person is going to “fit in”.

22:33 Martin tells a great story about getting a fantastic reference for a new employee.

23:34 Julie talks about why she does not trust references.

25:01 Terry talks about how he gets a sense for an employee’s potential fit.

27:19 Terry talks about coaching.

28:44 Julie and Martin give their last “2 cents” on the matter.

31:12 Terry wraps up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

Inside PR #119 – Wednesday, July 9, 2008

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This week on Inside PR, David Jones, Julie Rusciolelli and Martin Waxman discuss training and how PR agencies are keeping their staff up to date.

Show Notes

00:34 Dave opens the show.

02:38 Julie introduces the main topic: Training and what PR agencies are doing to keep their staff up to date.

03:40 Martin talks about something Palette PR has been doing. He references a lunch and learn their team will be having with Parker Mason of CNW Group. Parker was Martin’s CPRS Mentee.

05:14 Dave opens talks about the demand for training.

05:57 Julie talks about training credits and end of year training activities. She references Rogen training courses.

08:53 Dave talks about training at Hill and Knowlton where they carry out formal and informal training sessions including Lunch and Learns.

13:19 Julie talks to the three reasons people stay in a firm: growth and learning, fun and money.

13:42 Martin talks about staying at a job out of fear of change and complacency.

14:31 Martin and Julie discuss their thoughts on the APR accreditation.

17:24 Julie talks about IABC and CPRS.

18:43 Dave introduces the discussion on budgeting for training.

22:56 Julie opens the talks on mentoring.

34:08 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

Inside PR #117 – Wednesday, June 25, 2008

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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss four ways to turn your boutique agency into a Super Star, proper, PR agency.

Show Notes

00:27 Terry opens the show

01:09 Terry tells us about Podcasters Across Borders

03:34 Dave introduces the comment from David Silverman of Outpost out of the UK

05:01 Dave sets up the main topic of discussion for this week’s Inside PR: Four ways to turn your boutique agency into a Super-Star agency

05:13 Tip #1 – Build new practices by hiring experts.

06:43 Terry uses the hiring of Michael O’Connor Clarke to illustrate the effectiveness of this tip

09:58 Martin brings up the importance of being flexible in specialization

11:15 Tip #2 – Build experience in new areas by working with smaller clients and consider it an investment

14:14 Terry talks about how he and Dave learned to podcast with Ian Hull of Hull & Hull LLP.

16:41 Tip #3 – Growing your firm through buying or merging with a smaller agency that specializes in an area of interest

18:36 Martin gives us some examples of American firms using this tactic to enter into the Canadian market

20:40 Tip #4 – Fake it until you make it (though the panel of Inside PR does not recommend this action)

24:07 Martin talks about the importance of referrals

24:39 Tip #5 – Leverage your skills (a special supplement from Martin)

25:46 Terry talks about working with associates

27:31 Dave ties up the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

Inside PR #116 – Wednesday, June 18, 2008

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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis, David Jones, Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss how PR agencies are being structured in 2008.

Show Notes

00:27 Dave introduces the show

01:06 Terry alerts the listeners that Podcasters Across Borders is coming up this weekend

02:10 Terry Introduces the main topic: How PR agencies are being structured in 2008 or Organizing for better business

02:49 Terry starts up the conversation on organizing to win new business. The panel talks about whether it is better to get the whole firm winning new business or if you should hire one person for the job

04:48 Julie makes a comparison between new business gathering and hunting

07:24 Dave talks about his experiences while working at a larger firm

10:30 Terry draws the conclusion that New Business is best worked on by everyone.

16:22 Dave talks about circumstances where having new business hunters worked

18:58 The panel talks about how agencies organize to deal with client work

22:15 Martin and Julie talk about breaking down position barriers to take some of the tension out of the work place

27:30 Silo structures are referenced

31:46 The panel talks about how companies can be organized around certain Sr. people or the company’s “Rainmakers”

39:25 Terry closes up the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

Inside PR #111 – Tuesday, May 13, 2008

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This week on Inside PR, Terry, Keith and Martin welcome comments from Rick Weiss and Guy Skipworth, define roles in PR firms and discuss promoting employees.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

02:45 Keith talks about Interactive Marketing Conference that he is attending on May 15th with Dave Jones. Chris Anderson, editor-in-chief at Wired Magazine and author of The Long Tail, is the keynote speaker.

04:09 Terry discusses his talk at a communications event for Government of Ontario employees.

05:06 Terry introduces the comment from Rick Weiss ( a regular listener and student at Centennial College)

05:24 Rick Weiss asks if it’s possible to salvage the image of a company in distress with an excellent PR campaign

09:05 Terry introduces the comment from Guy Skipworth of Mediaco

09:28 Guy Skipworth opens the conversation on titles in agencies

10:10 Terry, Martin and Keith define the titles in agencies and outline some of the tasks that they find to be most important

23:40 Terry starts of the conversation about when to promote an employee. The panel discusses:

Promoting from within
Skills development
Breaking down title boundaries
Setting objectives
Succession planning
Career Planning
Retaining Employees
Culture
Training
Reviews

    33:13 Terry closes up the show.

    Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

    This week’s episode was produced by Kyra Aylsworth and published by Samantha Lovelace.

    Inside PR #106 – Tuesday, April 8th, 2008

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    This week on Inside PR, the Inside PR panel go live to the Groundhog Pub where they tackle the tough question of who owns the social media space and field questions and statements from the Third Tuesday audience.

    This weeks Inside PR panel consists of: Terry Fallis, David Jones, Julie Rusciolelli, Keith McArthur and Martin Waxman.

    Show Notes

    00:24 Terry introduces the show

    01:26 Dave makes bad joke about spinal tap, a pod and a zucchini wrapped in tin foil.

    01:43 Dave introduces the nights topic: PR in social media

    02:46 Dave commences the conversation about who “owns” social media

    06:20 Julie brings up Dove’s Evolution by Ogilvy as well as the Bridezilla and Subservient Chicken social media campaigns

    08:26 Keith takes the stance ith Terry and Dave that PR has a hold on the social media space

    08:56 Martin brings up the first main difference between PR and advertising’s activities in the space. Advertising does it, PR talks about it.

    10:37 Tamera from the audience points out that really the social media space belongs to the customer

    12:23 Julie infers that agencies are the flippers on the social media pin ball machine.

    14:01 Dave issues the challenge of being a part of the social media space with out being seen as manipulating the space

    14:15 Dave Ford, from the audience, continues Tamera’s argument referencing Dell and Starbucks

    15:05 Keith calls social media a cultural revolution

    15:36 Martin references Giovanni Rodriguez and DIY

    17:20 Mary Margret Jones of the audience brings up the challenge of getting clients to buy in

    21:29 Keith mentions how dangerous it can be to have clients buying in without really knowing what it is

    23:17 Carman from the audience starts the conversation about the PR/marketer hybrid

    25:19 Julie states that the side that knows the client best will win the projects and thus the space

    27:25 An unidentified audience member asks about transparency

    28:20 Terry goes over some negative outcomes of not being transparent

    29:37 Martin mentions having fun in the space and references the Captain Morgan blog

    31:04 Brian from the audience talks about the arrogance of companies in thinking they own the social media space

    32:47 Terry rephrases the initial question: What type of agency can best get the client effective social media space and activity

    33:35 An audience member asks about the difference between PR and Ad in the social media space

    35:13 David Ford, from the audience, asks about a recessions effect on the social media space

    37:44 Keith answers with “if it’s working people will spend money on it, recession or not”

    38:43 Terry thanks CNW for their constant support and making every Third Tuesday come alive with sound

    39:02 Dave wraps up the show

    Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

    This weeks episode of Inside PR was produced by Samantha Lovelace.