Inside PR #171 – Wednesday, September 23, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss topics brought up in their interview with Shel Israel and wrap up the show with their new segment “30.”

00:27 Dave opens the show.

01:03 Martin introduces the interview he did with Shel Israel at Third Tuesday Toronto.

05:03 The guys discuss Shel’s interview at length and talk about how much social media might be too much in client PR projects.

21:28 Dave introduces this week’s edition of “30.”

23:52 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music NetworkRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR Summer Archives #8 – Wednesday, August 19, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss the reasons they began their PR businesses, Palette Public Relations and MAVERICK and the five signs you should start your own PR business.

Show Notes

00:26 Martin opens the show

02:11 Martin introduces the show topic: Why you would want to start a PR business and the signs that you should start a PR business.

02:58 Martin introduces the first sign: When you love your job but hate going into work

05:44 Julie discusses the second sign: When your job becomes too easy and you feel as though you are almost on autopilot

06:38 Martin discusses the third sign: Taking the little things too seriously

10:09 Julie introduces the fourth sign: Culture shock: the culture you want to create is at odds with that of the existing agency

14:08 Martin discusses the last sign: An entrepreneurial calling

20:09 Martin recaps the five signs you should start your own PR business.

21:20 Martin and Julie close the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music NetworkRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR Summer Archives #7 – Wednesday, August 12, 2009

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This week on Inside PR, Keith McArthur and David Jones review this weeks events and discuss PR agencies and how they need to change.

Show Notes

00:32 Dave introduces the show

01:27 Keith talks about the InfoPresse conference and the launch of influencia.ca

02:43 The debate about social media as a cultural or technological revolution begins. The understanding of the tools or the the understanding of the culture; which is more important?

03:49 Keith gets a dig in at Dave for having issues with last week’s podcast

04:07 Dave references Kate Trgovac

04:53 Dave talks about Joseph Thornley’s  Social Media RoundtableMESH and speaking at MESH about podcasting with Doug Walker. Doug Walker hosts the Shill Podcast with Dave and writes the webwalker blog

08:19 Welcome to the main topic of the show: PR Agencies and How They Need to Change. This topic was brought up in reference to a blog post by Todd Defren – developer of the social media press release.

09:52 Dave and Keith discuss the “5 thoughts on the future of PR“:

  1. Agencies must become comfortable with the personal branding of employees
  2. Agencies need to do a far better job training staff
  3. Agencies have to explain to clients that mistakes will happen
  4. Agencies must help clients move from reactive to proactive to interactive
  5. Agencies must reconsider their core value

40:30 Dave wraps the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music NetworkRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

Inside PR Summer Archives #1 – Wednesday, July 1, 2009

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David hold their first of many discussions on the myths of public relations. This week, they talk about the myth of the “PR agency sweatshop”. Also, they play this week’s contribution from Chris Clarke and Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:33 Terry introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through email at [email protected], the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:43 Terry reminds listeners that he recently posted a special edition of Inside PR with Esther Buchsbaum, co-founder of Communications Meca and the first ever Canadian chair of the Counselors Academy spring conference. Interested listeners can find the episode here on the Inside PR blog page.

02:20 Terry talks about a comment from Jamey Sheils on Inside PR #21.

03:30 David talks about a comment from Owen Lystrup.

06:21 David introduces a chat about the myths of the public relations. This week’s topic is the myth surrounding the “PR agency sweatshop.”

07:41 Terry makes it clear that there are fewer agency “sweatshops” than most believe.

10:28 David believes the “PR sweatshop” depends on the person’s perspective. He talks about his time years ago working long hours, but from his perspective, not in a sweatshop.

13:00 Terry doesn’t see the value of working new employees to the point of burnout. He defines it as a person working 10 hours a day, 5 days a week for months on end. He suggests that it would be in the firm’s and the employee’s longer term interest to hire a second consultant and split the 10 hours/day in two.

14:40 David thinks everyone should do their homework and know what they’re getting into before they join an agency.

18:33 David says that the long hours he worked early in his career has led to him being more efficient.

19:20 Terry mentions that there are far fewer “PR sweatshops” than most would think, but David says that there are a few “sweatshops” where it’s an owner and a group of interns. Terry agrees but doesn’t think that’s the way to build an agency, but these agencies do exist.

21:55 Terry mentions that he’s had a mere two all-nighters in his 18 years as a consultant.

22:20 David welcomes any stories relating to “PR sweatshops”.

23:11 Terry introduces and plays Chris Clarke‘s segment for the week.

26:09 Inside PRoper English for the week: the proper use of the word “none”

27:39 David closes the show and invites listener comments; through email at [email protected], on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcome listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks from the Podsafe Music Network. Roger Dey is our announcer.

Inside PR #161 – Wednesday, April 29, 2009

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This week on Inside PR David Jones and Martin Waxman share “war stories” from the world of public relations.

00:26 Martin opens the show.

01:30 Dave introduces this week’s topic: “war stories” from Martin and Dave’s collective past in the PR world.

01:58 Martin kicks off the show with the first story.

8:10 Dave shares a story about Molson’s fund raising concert for SARS– Molson Canadian Rocks Toronto or SARS Stock, as it was more commonly referred to.

15:51 Martin tells a story about an experience he had working with Yuk Yuk’s.

20:49 Dave tells the final story of the show from his time with the Royal Canadian Golf Association.

32:43 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #158 – Wednesday, April 8, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss all things Twitter.

00:27 Terry opens the show.

01:22 Terry announces that he spoke at the Canadian Public Relations Society (Hamilton Branch) Pinnacle Awards dinner last night.

02:12 Terry mentions the immense amount of major media coverage Twitter has received in the past month.

03:22 Terry introduces the show topic for this week: the “usability” or pros and cons of Twitter on the agency and client side of public relations.

04:07 Dave and Marin have an in-depth discussion about how they use Twitter and what they like, or don’t like, about the tool.

18:02 Dave discusses the etiquette of following and being followed on Twitter.

20:55 Martin suggests that a tipping point with Twitter usage may be when a user goes from using the Twitter.com interface to using an application like Tweetdeck or Twirl.

24:49 Terry shifts the conversation to a discussion of how some organizations are using Twitter, with examples of how Twitter can work for the clients of PR agencies.

32:49 Dave talks about how successful Twitter can be at building professional relationships, citing his relationship to Antonia Zerbisias as an example.

34:43 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #157 – Wednesday, April 1, 2009

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This week on Inside PR David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss awards season in the PR world and welcome comments from listeners.

00:28 Dave opens the show.

01:03 Martin welcomes a comment from Crystal Klippenstein, regarding the role of PR practioners in the non-profit sector.

03:15 Dave welcomes a comment from Karen Ashley, regarding the old Inside PR segment, Inside PRoper English.

06:07 Dave introduces this week’s topic: awards season in the world of PR, specifically the IABC awards and the CPRS awards.

10:14 Dave and Martin discuss the common weak points they have encountered within award submission packages.

13:17 Dave and Martin both agree the more specific your objectives are, the more likely your award submission is likely to stand out.

16:40 Dave opens a discussion about the reasons PR agencies enter their work for awards.

20:43 Dave thinks that creating a nicer looking award and a more exciting award ceremony are key to chalking up more interest in submitting for consideration.

23:51 Dave sums up the top three reasons most PR agencies enter themselves for award consideration.

26:43 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #156 – Wednesday, March 25, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman look back over the past three years of Inside PR, discuss the future of social media and welcome three listener comments.

00:28 Dave opens the show.

01:20 Terry introduces the Inside PR anniversary show clips from Episodes 1, 52 and 104.

03:53 Episode #1 clip starts.

05:46 Episode #52 clip starts.

08:20 Episode #104 clip starts.

11:11 Terry, Dave and Martin discuss the show clips and how the show has evolved in the past three years.

13:17 Terry reflects on the change in the concept of transparency and authenticity in the world of PR over the past few years.

18:18 Dave opens the question of whether or not first-mover advantage is one of the most important factors in social media.

19:07 Dave makes note of the fact that most Inside PR subscribers also listen to other PR podcasts, such as For Immediate Release and Six Pixels of Seperation.

22:18 Terry notes that while podcasts have not grown in popularity as quickly as he thought they might, many mainstream media outlets, such as the CBC and NPR, provide content in podcast form.

24:25 Dave mentions the difficulty that amatuer podcasters have in competing with mainstream podcasts hosted by people like Bill Maher and Adam Carolla.

26:42 Terry introduces a comment from Sallie Goetsch, founder of The Podcast Asylum.

27:21 Terry introduces a question from Kalene Morgan, a PR professor at Humber College.

31:55 Terry welcomes the final comment from Alison Farbar, who was introduced to Inside PR by Shel Holtz.

34:00 Terry asks Dave and Martin for their thoughts on how an individual can make the transition from the client side of PR to the agency side.

39:01 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #155 – Wednesday, March 18, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman discuss managing a PR agency through the current economic recession.

00:28 Terry opens the show.

00:57 Housekeeping note: Terry explains why Inside PR #154 has not yet appeared on iTunes.

03:38 Martin introduces the show topic for this week: managing an agency through the recession.

03:54 Martin mentions that the show topic was partly inspired by Todd Defren’s recent blog post.

05:11 Martin mentions the Counselor’s Academy, an offshoot of The Public Relations Society of America, which is an organization geared toward PR agencies.

06:38 Terry begins a review of the ways in which agencies bill their clients and how that may change during a recession.

13:29 Terry introduces a discussion on the challenging concept of value billing.

20:08 Terry shares some techniques on cash-flow managment for PR agencies.

28:40 Terry opens a discussion about the most valuable resource any PR agency has: it’s people.

32:26 Terry gives Dave Fleet a shout-out for all his hard work at Thornley Fallis.

34:18 Terry announces that next week’s episode of Inside PR marks the show’s 3rd anniversary!

35:11 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.