Inside PR Summer Archives #2 – Wednesday, July 8, 2009

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David talk about the future of social media and PR’s place within it. Also, they welcome audio comments from Paull Young, Andrew Findlater, and Colin Douma. Chris Clarke contributes his weekly commentary. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:29 David introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through email at [email protected], the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:15 Terry wants to point listeners to an interview he did with Paull Young for the Forward Podcast.

03:12 Terry talks about his venture into the world of audio book podcasting with his novel The Best Laid Plans, this week with an offer to have his book listed on Podiobooks.

04:10 David talks about a possible new feature on Inside PR: phonecasting, which allows listeners to download podcasts to their cell phones.

05:15 David talks about a podcast interview he did with Eric Bergman about the MRP system he helped pioneer.

6:55 Terry kicks off this week’s batch of comments with an email from Michael Keliher. He talks about a promotional giveaway that listeners can enter here.

09:12 David introduces an audio comment from Andrew Findlater of National PR, who is in search of a social media savvy PR professional. Terry points out that his firm is also on the hunt for such PR pros.

14:10 Terry introduces an audio comment from Paull Young on Canada’s social media scene.

15:20 David introduces an audio comment from Colin Douma. Colin wonders what the future of PR, marketing, and social media are going to look like.

21:30 Terry and David use Colin’s question as this week’s main topic for discussion. Terry has a sense that there will be some change in communications as everyone tries to put a stake in social media. David thinks that the focus needs to be on the conversation and on the fact that we need not go through the media anymore. David asks the question: will marketing and PR change because of social media?

29:05 Terry adds that PR isn’t about selling, and that’s why he thinks we’re best suited to own social media.

31:58 Terry introduces Chris Clarke’s commentary this week.

35:28 Inside PRoper English: avoiding unnecessary “filler” words, phrases and cliches like “essentially,” “basically,” “at the end of the day,” and Terry’s favourite, “in terms of.”

37:50 Terry closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at [email protected], on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

Inside PR Summer Archives #1 – Wednesday, July 1, 2009

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David hold their first of many discussions on the myths of public relations. This week, they talk about the myth of the “PR agency sweatshop”. Also, they play this week’s contribution from Chris Clarke and Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:33 Terry introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through email at [email protected], the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:43 Terry reminds listeners that he recently posted a special edition of Inside PR with Esther Buchsbaum, co-founder of Communications Meca and the first ever Canadian chair of the Counselors Academy spring conference. Interested listeners can find the episode here on the Inside PR blog page.

02:20 Terry talks about a comment from Jamey Sheils on Inside PR #21.

03:30 David talks about a comment from Owen Lystrup.

06:21 David introduces a chat about the myths of the public relations. This week’s topic is the myth surrounding the “PR agency sweatshop.”

07:41 Terry makes it clear that there are fewer agency “sweatshops” than most believe.

10:28 David believes the “PR sweatshop” depends on the person’s perspective. He talks about his time years ago working long hours, but from his perspective, not in a sweatshop.

13:00 Terry doesn’t see the value of working new employees to the point of burnout. He defines it as a person working 10 hours a day, 5 days a week for months on end. He suggests that it would be in the firm’s and the employee’s longer term interest to hire a second consultant and split the 10 hours/day in two.

14:40 David thinks everyone should do their homework and know what they’re getting into before they join an agency.

18:33 David says that the long hours he worked early in his career has led to him being more efficient.

19:20 Terry mentions that there are far fewer “PR sweatshops” than most would think, but David says that there are a few “sweatshops” where it’s an owner and a group of interns. Terry agrees but doesn’t think that’s the way to build an agency, but these agencies do exist.

21:55 Terry mentions that he’s had a mere two all-nighters in his 18 years as a consultant.

22:20 David welcomes any stories relating to “PR sweatshops”.

23:11 Terry introduces and plays Chris Clarke‘s segment for the week.

26:09 Inside PRoper English for the week: the proper use of the word “none”

27:39 David closes the show and invites listener comments; through email at [email protected], on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcome listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks from the Podsafe Music Network. Roger Dey is our announcer.

Inside PR #169 – Wednesday, June 24, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman make a special announcement and welcome a listener comment.

00:31 Terry opens the show.

01:40 Terry mentions that he will be giving a presentation today at a McNally Robinson bookstore in Don Mills.

03:07 Terry introduces a comment from Simon Mason of LimeCube Marketing.

04:26 Dave, Martin and Terry all sound off on the role of authenticity when a PR agency takes on the task of transcribing blogs for their clients.

10:44 Terry introduces this week’s topic: IPR’s summer hiatus and the future of the show.

23:53 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #167 – Wednesday, June 10, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and David Jones discuss how public relations changes during the summer season and welcome a listener comment.  Martin Waxman reports from Vancouver.

00:26 Terry opens the show.

02:25 Dave mentions the now famous Billy Bob Thornton interview with Jian Ghomeshi.

03:11 Terry welcomes a comment from Felipe Mangabeira of FirstCom Communications in Sao Paulo, Brazil.

04:30 Terry opens a discussion about how public/media relations changes during the summer season.

13:00 Terry introduces Martin, reporting from the CPRS conference in Vancouver.

15:11 After a brief run-down of some of the events at the conference, Martin introduces the interview segments with Julie Szabo and Darren Barefoot of Capulet Communications, Terry Flynn of McMaster University and Paul Mylrea of the Global Alliance for Public Relations and Communications Management.

28:40 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #166 – Wednesday, June 3, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and David Jones discuss client/vendor relationships and Martin Waxman reports from sunny California.

00:26 Dave opens the show.

05:08 Dave starts a discussion stemming from a YouTube video he saw about client/vendor relationships posted on Dave Fleet’s blog.

26:50 Terry introduces Martin’s segment, recorded in Palm Springs, California at the Counselors Academy Conference.

27:22 Martin gives us some highlights of the conference and tells us he will be interviewing the following people:  Pat McNamara of Apex Public Relations, Deborah Weinstein of Strategic Objectives, Joseph Thornley of Thornley Fallis Communications, Elise Mitchell of Mitchell Communications Group, Gini Dietrich of Arment Dietrich, Scott Farrell of Golin Harris and Jason Baer of Convince and Convert.

40:36 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #162 – Wednesday, May 6, 2009

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This week on Inside PR we listen to a live recording of the CPRS Toronto Web 2.0 PR panel with Martin Waxman moderating.

00:44 Martin opens the show.

01:05 Welcoming comments from Lawrence Stevenson, president of CPRS Toronto.

01:24 Lawrence introduces the evening’s co-chair, Alison Reed.

01:40 Alison introduces the moderator for the evening, Martin Waxman.

04:09 Martin introduces the discussion panelists: Kate Trgovac, Ed Lee, Keith McArthur, David Jones and Lisa Leung.

07:22 The discussion begins with the first question for the panel coming from Martin: What would your definition of social media be?

17:55 Martin asks the panel if they think social media could replace television or water cooler chats as the first place people gather socially.

27:09 Martin welcomes a question from Lawrence Stevenson off the live Twitter feed.

34:59 Martin asks a question from the live Twitter feed: What do you think the first social media tool is?

38:37 Final question from the Twitter feed: How do you measure the success of a social media campaign?

43:50 Show closes.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #161 – Wednesday, April 29, 2009

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This week on Inside PR David Jones and Martin Waxman share “war stories” from the world of public relations.

00:26 Martin opens the show.

01:30 Dave introduces this week’s topic: “war stories” from Martin and Dave’s collective past in the PR world.

01:58 Martin kicks off the show with the first story.

8:10 Dave shares a story about Molson’s fund raising concert for SARS– Molson Canadian Rocks Toronto or SARS Stock, as it was more commonly referred to.

15:51 Martin tells a story about an experience he had working with Yuk Yuk’s.

20:49 Dave tells the final story of the show from his time with the Royal Canadian Golf Association.

32:43 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #160 – Wednesday, April 22, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman welcome questions and comments from listeners and discuss the role of customer service in public relations.

00:26 Terry opens the show.

01:19 Terry welcomes a question from Daniel D.

09:15 Martin tells us the short version of how Palette PR got its name.

12:36 Dave introduces another question from Ian Ross, former president of the CPRS Toronto Chapter.

14:18 Terry, Dave and Martin have an in-depth discussion about the role customer service plays on the agency side of public relations.

25:10 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #159 – Wednesday, April 15, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman welcome questions and comments from listeners and discuss the topics that are brought up.

00:26 Dave opens the show.

01:23 Martin tells us this week’s show will be a “comment round-up”  and welcomes the first comment from Julie Rusciolelli.

03:44 Terry mentions what a wonderful time he had at the CPRS Pinnacle Awards Dinner (Hamilton Branch) and gives a shout-out to all the new Inside PR subscribers he met there.

05:09 Martin mentions that the CPRS Toronto Ace Awards are coming up on April 21st.

06:54 Dave introduces an audio comment from Deborah Zanke in response to a question asked by Crystal Klippenstein regarding the role of PR in the non-profit sector.

12:22 Terry comments on the importance of balancing promotion and protection when working with non-profit organizations.

13:30 Dave mentions that the Canadian founder of War Child is tweeting from a war zone in Africa and that it’s an excellent example of how non-profit organizations are embracing social media.

16:42 Terry introduces another audio comment from Barbara Nixon.

21:09 Dave, Terry and Martin discuss whether or not portfolios are important when applying for a job in public relations.

27:01 Dave, Terry and Martin all agree that having a blog can be a major asset when applying for jobs in the PR world.

29:25 Terry closes the show.

Production Note: This week’s rejoinder is courtesy of Grizzly’s Growls Podcast.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #158 – Wednesday, April 8, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss all things Twitter.

00:27 Terry opens the show.

01:22 Terry announces that he spoke at the Canadian Public Relations Society (Hamilton Branch) Pinnacle Awards dinner last night.

02:12 Terry mentions the immense amount of major media coverage Twitter has received in the past month.

03:22 Terry introduces the show topic for this week: the “usability” or pros and cons of Twitter on the agency and client side of public relations.

04:07 Dave and Marin have an in-depth discussion about how they use Twitter and what they like, or don’t like, about the tool.

18:02 Dave discusses the etiquette of following and being followed on Twitter.

20:55 Martin suggests that a tipping point with Twitter usage may be when a user goes from using the Twitter.com interface to using an application like Tweetdeck or Twirl.

24:49 Terry shifts the conversation to a discussion of how some organizations are using Twitter, with examples of how Twitter can work for the clients of PR agencies.

32:49 Dave talks about how successful Twitter can be at building professional relationships, citing his relationship to Antonia Zerbisias as an example.

34:43 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.