Inside PR 2.44: PodCamp Toronto reunion show part 2

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It’s time for part two of our PodCamp Toronto ‘reunited’ shows featuring IPR creators Terry Fallis and Dave Jones joining Gini, Joe and me.

Terry continues as host and looks back to April 2006 when IPR began and how he and Dave felt the need to act quickly in order to establish themselves among the many, many burgeoning Canadian PR podcasts.   He observes that five years later the big PR podcasting wave has yet to hit.

Eden Spodek mentions recent CRTC research saying hobbyist podcasting is growing.

Martin contends MSM has done a great job podcasting their shows and wonders if that hasn’t had an effect on the number of people tuning into hobbyist podcasts.

Joe feels podcasts are fulfilling the expectations of people who are looking for niche content.

Gini believes we learn visually or by reading and not by listening and thinks that’s one of the reasons podcasting hasn’t exploded.

Joe talks about how businesses that experimented with audio podcasting quickly realized the power of putting that together with video.

Terry takes a straw poll of the crowd and asks how many people prefer audio or video podcasts. The audience is split 50/50. Terry talks about how much he likes audio and launches into a quasi-romantic story about the time he met Mitch Joel IRL… Enough said.

Martin asks Gini if she notices any difference between Canada and the US in social media?

Gini remarks that she’s impressed by PCTO’s ability to attract so many people and how well organized the free event is. She says she doesn’t think that there would be this many people attending in Chicago.

Martin wonders how you engage people in social media if you’re not a creator?

Joe thinks we’re all creators and need to have the passion to stick with it. The challenge is putting up with the work required to be creative.

Dave believes it’s about expectations and what keeps you motivated. He said that when he and Terry started IPR, they committed to do the show every week, aimed for consistency and quality and built an audience from there. It’s important to respect what your community wants and to do what’s right for you in your space.

Gini talks about community and uses an example of how her community came to her defense when another group criticized her en masse for her position in a blog post.

And that brings the second PodCamp Toronto show to a close…

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Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Yasmine Kashefi.

Inside PR 2.43: Then meets now at PodCamp Toronto – the reunion show part 1

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Get ready for some familiar voices as Terry Fallis and Dave Jones join Joe, Gini and me for Inside PR, recorded before a ‘live studio audience’ at PodCamp Toronto.  #PCTO is Canada’s largest social media event, an unconference now in its fifth year.  Terry, Dave and I recorded episodes there in 2009 and 2010 and thought we’d get the (almost) whole crew together again. It’s a fun way to connect and reconnect with our listeners IRL.  And it’s always great to see and thank our talented and hard-working producer, Yasmine Kashefi!

This week, Terry plays ‘host’ after nearly a year’s hiatus and reminisces about our five-minute-before-the-show-planning.  He mentions PodCamp Toronto’s 5th anniversary and Joe notes PCTO has 1400 people registered.  Eden Spodek, one of the event organizers talks about how in 2007, its first year, there were 300 early adopters and people thought it was about podcasting, but it’s always been focused on social media.

Joe believes the quality of speakers and discussion further demonstrates that Toronto is not only a Canadian business centre, but also a digital centre second to none with many great events and a smart and engaged community.

Martin comments that attendance at PCTO mirrors the adoption of social media and asks Dave about ROI and potato chips.

Dave observes SM should be realistic about what you can accomplish: in year one it’s very much about recruitment and engagement followed by entertainment, activation and reward; building community over time.

Joe talks about Kobo and wonders if clients are developing a longer-term sense of value for social media or if the pressure is on immediate sales.

Jodi Echakowitz makes a comment about about integration and uses an example of how her client, Sympatico, helped increase Kid’s Help Phone’s database by supporting a community.

Martin asks Gini how she transformed her firm from pure PR into a social media agency.  Gini says she’s more of an integrated agency and talks about the need to educate clients on the fact that social media programs are a marathon. You have to built trust, credibility and relationships and that doesn’t happen overnight.

And that brings us to the end of part one of our #PCTO shows. We’d love to hear what you think and hope you tune in next week for part two.

Do you have comments? Send us an email or an audio comment to [email protected], join the Inside PR Facebook group, leave us a comment here, message us @inside_pr on Twitter, or connect with Gini DietrichJoe Thornley, and me on Twitter.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Yasmine Kashefi.

Inside PR #189 – Wednesday, January 27, 2010

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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman welcome listener comments and discuss the future of newswires.

00:29 Terry opens the show.

00:50 Terry and Martin wish Dave Jones a Happy Robbie Burns Day AND a Happy Birthday!

02:22 Terry introduces a comment from Eden Spodek, one of the organizers of Podcamp Toronto 2010.

04:02 Terry reads a comment from Ben Hennessey.

07:50 Terry introduces a third comment from Rob Jeanveau, which also leads to this week’s topic: What does the future hold for newswires?

17:57 Terry kicks off the -30- segment.

21:53 Martin closes the show.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #153 – Wednesday, March 4, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman play catch-up with listener comments and discuss Skittles leap into the world of social media.

00:26 Terry opens the show.

01:05 Terry tells us that this week’s show will be devoted to a “comment round-up,” which will be followed by a specific topic near the end of the show.

01:46 Terry introduces the the first comment from Deborah Zanke, sole proprietor of a PR consultancy.

06:27 Terry welcomes an audio comment from Jeremy MacLaine, a student at Loyalist college.

08:05 In response to Jeremy’s question, Terry and Martin discuss the do’s and don’t’s of being an intern in the PR world.

11:35 Martin welcomes an audio comment from Volodymyr Dehtyarov of Nords PR Ukraine.

17:03 Terry introduces another comment that was left on the blog by Mike Keliher.

20:12 Martin wraps up the comment portion of the episode with two final comments from last week’s live episode, recorded at Podcamp Toronto.

20:29 Terry takes a moment to thank Podcamp organizers Dave Fleet, Jay Moonah and Eden Spodek for organizing such a great event.

21:57 Martin reads the second last comment of the show, submitted by a Boston PR firm.

22:15 Martin welcomes the final comment of the show from Sarah Bannoff.

23:09 Martin introduces a discussion about the new Skittles website.

25:18 Terry asks whether the net effect of Skittles bold leap into social media is positive or negative.

29:27 Both Terry and Martin agree that Skittles foray into social media will certainly be used as a case study amongst PR professionals in the future.

30:40 Terry asks Martin for his opinion on how Skittles could take their current experience with social media and turn it around.

32:04 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #151 – Wednesday, February 18, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss the notion of PR people becoming the story and how this relates to the online world and welcome comments from Al Croft, Eden Spodek and Roger Christie.

00:26 Dave opens the show.

01:41 Dave reminds us that Inside PR will be doing a live recording at Podcamp Toronto at Ryerson University.

03:21 Dave gives a shout-out and congratulations to Ed Lee who has taken over for Keith McArthur at com.motion.

03:58 Martin mentions that he was has started a Wiki called “Twittionary“, an evolving dictionary on all things twitter, which was based on a post by Shannon Yelland.

04:33 Terry reads a comment form Al Croft.

06:09 Martin introduces an audio comment from Eden Spodek of Bargainista and Community Divas.

06:22 Eden Spodek leaves a comment asking Terry, Dave and Martin to define influencers.

06:55 Martin give his perspective on how he defines an influencer.

07:52 Dave discusses how he defines an influencer.

14:08 Terry introduces a comment from Roger Christie on Online Reputation Management stemming from an online study by Weber Shandwick.

18:30 Terry mentions that Roger has also written a blog post on this topic.

19:04 Dave introduces the show topic: The Notion of PR People Becoming the Story.

23:35 Dave brings up the topic of how this relates to the online world – he refers to a “fight” that occurred on Twitter recently.

25:32 Martin mentions that Ian Capstick has a post encapsulating where things are in terms of this “fight”.

25:40 Martin mentions the ongoing battle between Scott Monty and Jalopnik.

36:21 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #110 – Tuesday, May 6, 2008

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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis, Dave Jones, Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss 360 Degrees: All Things Connected, Terry’s BIG WIN, character blogs and social media’s impact on public relations.

Show Notes

00:25 Dave introduces the Show

01:17 Julie talks about the CPRS event she will be attending along with Joseph Thornley

02:45 Dave mentions Terry’s BIG WIN!

03:51 Terry tells us about winning the Leacock Medal for Humour

References:

Terry’s Website – Home of the Best Laid Plans

The News Release

Link to CBC.ca’s Ontario Today Archives

Buy The Best Laid Plans Online

Amazon.com

Amazon.ca
chapters.indigo.ca

About PLR

08:36 Terry introduces the comment from Jay Moonah; Talks about Uncle Seth, Podcaster’s Across Boarders, Mark Blevis and Bob Goyetche

09:34 Jay Moonah leaves a comment about character blogs and the balance between authenticity and having fun. References: the Captain Morgan blog, Story2OH! and the comment on OneDegree

11:46 The panel talks about character blogs; pros and cons. They reference: the All I Want for Christmas is a PSP blog, Dwight’s blog, Fake Steve Jobs blog, Jiminy Glick and Amanda Chapel

An episode of Jiminy Glick

18:13 Dave introduces the topic of social media’s impact on public relations

27:59 Terry Wraps up the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace

Inside PR #107 – Tuesday, April 15, 2008

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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis, Dave Jones, Keith McArthur and Julie Rusciolelli talk about the use of social media in public relations, ethics and muse over the communications and legal fields. They welcome comments from Bob LeDrew, Michael O’Connor Clarke, Eden Spodek, Shel Holtz and Garen Stepanian.

Martin Waxman is away this week.

Show Notes

01:24 Dave introduces the show

01:30 Dave reads the comment about IPR 106 from Bob LeDrew. Bob is a member of the Thornley Fallis team in Ottawa and writes the Flack Life blog

03:11 Terry talks about taking IPR on the road

04:10 Michael O’Connor Clarke leaves a message about IPR 106. Michael is a member of the Thornley Fallis team in Toronto and writes Uninstalled. During his comment he refers to World of Ends and Doc Searls’ and David Weinberger’s theory on who owns the Internet

No one owns it.
Everyone can use it.
Anyone can improve it.

06:24 Michael does Inside Proper English: Metaphor V. Simile

09:32 Eden Spodek leaves a comment regarding the importance of understanding the principles of social media before applying them in a client involved environment. Eden hails from bargainista.ca

12:17 Terry mentions the importance of strategy over tactics

12:45 Dave talks about the missuses of social media tools

14:33 Keith introduces the comment from Shel Holtz and his opinion on ethics in PR. This discussion is continued from IPR 103

19:23 Terry tells the listeners about Shel Holtz’ and Neville Hobson’s contribution to IPR

19:52 The ethics debate begins again

27:07 Julie introduces the comment from Garen Stepanian

27:54 Terry, Julie, Dave and Keith all talk to their experiences working with Lawyers current and past and the synergy between law and public relations

37:39 Terry Signs off

Our theme music is Streewalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode of Inside PR was produced by Samantha Lovelace.