Inside PR 2.35 – Wednesday, January 5, 2011

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This week on Inside PR, Martin, Gini and Joe kick off the new year by talking about what they think will be the next big thing in 2011.

0:24 Martin opens the show.

1:36 Following up to the previous episode on Inside PR, Martin mentions that this week, they will be talking about three things that may be on the next big thing in social media or PR.

3:40 Using the example of Facebook raising 500 million dollars from Goldman Sachs, Joe wonders if this trend will lead to companies rushing to sell rather than thoroughly develop their product.

6:16 Gini feels like it’s 2000 again with all the money being thrown around these days.

6:35 Joe hopes that government will go past the experimentation stage with social media and really embrace it.

8:05 Martin wonders if the WikiLeaks controversy will affect how governments approach open data.

8:55 Joe points out that WikiLeaks wasn’t the result of a social media problem, but rather a leaky employee problem.

11:05 Gini talks about the FCC’s decision on net neutrality and how there are two versions of the internet now.

14:00 On the CBC Spark podcast, Barbara Van Shewick was interviewed about internet architecture and innovation. Joe recommends listening to it as the interview explores interesting and complex issues.

17:15 Martin closes the show.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Yasmine Kashefi.

Inside PR 2.34 – Wednesday, December 22, 2010

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This week on Inside PR, Martin, Gini and Joe finish discussing the trends of 2010 in their final episode of the year.

0:30 Martin opens the show.

1:36 Joe continues on the discussion by talking about his next trend, the social networking darlings: Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

3:32 Gini references a chart by Business Insider that demonstrates how Twitter is being used.

4:00 Joe cites two Canadian examples of how Twitter is being used as a newswire of sorts.

6:16 Gini brings up the next trend: The PR industry talks about measurement a lot but we don’t really seem to know how to do it.

7:31 Joe mentions a post by Jeremiah Owyang on the subject that he recommends checking out.

8:35 Martin doesn’t think algorithims can explain it all. We need a human perspective.

9:00 Martin talks about a new trend: Too many PR practitioners are focusing too much on broadcasting and not enough on building relationships.

10:06 Joe talks about his final trend for 2010: The drop-off of unique, interesting voices in the blogosphere. He mentions a blog post by Brian Solis on the state of the blogosphere in 2010 on the importance of blogging.

13:26 Gini fears another dot-com burst with all the Google-Groupon type deals taking place.

16:05 Martin announces the last trend of the episode: The reemergence of Wikis.

19:40 Martin recaps the trends discussed in this week’s episode.

20:35 Martin closes the show.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Yasmine Kashefi.

Inside PR 2.31 – Wednesday, December 1, 2010

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This week on Inside PR, Martin, Gini and Joe discuss PR spam and the difference between community and engagement.

0:25 Martin opens the show.

0:48 Martin announces this week’s topic, based on a suggestion from Petya Georgieva about PR spam. Petya asks what is social media PR spam and how does it differ from press release spam?

1:59 Gini points out that we talk about how bad it is to pitch to people to journalist and bloggers we don’t have relationships with, but many professionals still do it. Why?

3:55 Joe feels that hand built lists should be used whenever possible, but that’s not always possible depending on circumstances.

5:12 Gini shares an example of an unsolicited pitch she received from a vice-president at a global agency.

6:15 Martin doesn’t see any harm in asking if someone wants to receive information first. It helps build relationships.

8:03 Joe really likes Martin’s approach.

9:15 Joe believes a lot of junior practitioners don’t realize a small number of quality hits is a success.

10:20 Martin shares an approach to media relations developed by one of the VPs at energi pr, Lindsay Peterson.

11:15 Martin asks Gini about audience is on her blog, Spin Sucks, who are really engaged.

12:38 Gini differentiates between engagement and community.

14:48 Joe commends Gini on how she’s brought together a community on her various social channels.

16:30 Martin closes the show.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Yasmine Kashefi.

Inside PR 2.29 – Wednesday, November 17, 2010

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This week on Inside PR, Martin, Gini and Joe and special guest, Donna Papacosta, take a look at the worlds of Public Relations vs. Advertising.

0:29 Martin opens the show.

1:01 Martin introduces Donna Papacosta, Inside PR’s special guest this week.

2:12 Donna tells us when she first started podcasting.

5:15 Gini shares how her company, Arment Dietrich, is celebrating having 1000 fans on Facebook.

7:40 Martin mentions that he has recently finished reading Terry Fallis‘ second book, The High Road.

9:50 Donna adds that when she speaks to writers who are hesitant to podcast any material, she tells them it’s not stealing that they should be worried about. It’s being obscure.

10:40 Martin shares that former Inside PR host, Dave Jones, has made the move from PR to an ad agency. Martin wonders if this is a new trend?

11:39 Gini talks about how she made a shift to a mid-sized ad agency early in her career.

12:48 Donna weighs in.

14:10 Joe thinks all these transitions show that PR people have won the battle.

17:10 Gini shares where she thinks PR people and advertising people differ.

20:17 Joe suggests they invite Dave Jones back as a guest on the show.

20:47 Martin closes the show.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Yasmine Kashefi.

Inside PR 2.28 – Wednesday, November 10, 2010

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This week on Inside PR, Martin, Gini and Joe think back about what, if anything, they would change about their careers.

0:27 Martin opens the show.

1:44 Martin shares a comment from two listeners. The first comes from Victoria, a PR student. Victoria mentioned Inside PR as a podcast she really enjoys listening too.

2:09 Eden Spodek, who was mentioned in last week’s episode, shares the best way to approach bloggers to get them to talk about your client or their product.

3:34 Martin talks about a pharma conference he recently attended and wonders if social media and pharma policies go together?

7:07 This week’s topic comes from a comment posted on Gini’s blog. Rachael Seda asks “What is one thing you wish you could’ve done differently (or just done period) in the beginning of your careers?”

7:31 Joe doesn’t think he has any regrets.

8:43 Martin tells us what he would have done differently.

10:49 Gini wishes she realized how resourceful the people she worked with were.

12:48 Joe thinks young people need to realize the mobility they have in their careers when they were young.

15:52 Gini believes young people have a unique perspective on communications, one that they should be confident in sharing.

18:14 Martin closes the show.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Yasmine Kashefi.

Inside PR 2.27 – Wednesday, November 3, 2010

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This week on Inside PR, MartinGini and Joe talk rogue accounts and what, if anything, a company should do about them.

0:29 Martin opens the show.

1:53 Martin shares a comment from Daniel Davidzon. Daniel was wondering if Martin, Gini and Joe can weigh in on the proliferation of rogue accounts on Twitter.

2:40 Joe believes it should be a company’s responsibility to reserve their name on any social site and identify themselves as the owner.

5:15 A reporter had recently asked Gini if a company should own negative or derogatory names on social networking websites so others can’t use it  for bad purposes.

6:06 Joe thinks it’s a good idea for companies to do that.

6:52 Martin wonders if a company is doing a good job with their customers, does it matter when someone creates a “companysucks” site?

7:13 Joe and Gini believe it does.

12:28 Martin shares a comment from Eden Spodek and a question of his own that stemmed from it – how overt should PR people be when encouraging others to tweet or share about a client?

14:50 Joe thinks transparency is key.

18:57 Gini shares some thoughts about Follow Friday (#FF) on Twitter.

23:27 Martin closes the show.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Yasmine Kashefi.

Inside PR 2.25 – Wednesday, October 20, 2010

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This week on Inside PR, Martin and Joe talk about how the media landscape is changing online.

0:28 Martin opens the show.

1:54 Martin introduces an audio comment from long-time listener, Jody Koehler, founder of Coopr PR in the Netherlands. Jody comments on his own use of Twitter.

3:44 Joe agrees with Jody about the power of Twitter and how it transcends geography.

4:40 Joe encourages listeners to share both audio and video comments on the Inside PR Facebook Group.

5:15 Martin announces this week’s topic: further changes in the media landscape. He comments on how the Toronto Star is now including content from the NY Times.

7:30 Joe mentions The Globe and Mail’s recent revamp and how it ties in with what Jeff Jarvis is saying about publicness.

10:15 Joe adds that papers are taking steps to monetize content online.

12:00 Martin shares an observation from Matthew Ingram, the former community manager at the Globe and Mail.

13:00 Joe notes that newspapers are having the same problem as bloggers with articles posted online – the conversation is moving away from the source. Joe wonders about the implications this has on public relations.

15:03 Joe believes that if you want to deal with the media these days, it helps to follow reporters and have them follow you and be able to offer something of value.

19:00 Martin suggests discussing the future of publishing in a future episode.

19:30 Joe recommends checking out Jeff Jarvis’ recent video on Buzz Machine about publicness and how it will effect the future of newspapers.

20:35 Martin closes the show


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This week’s episode was produced by Yasmine Kashefi.

Inside PR 2.24 – Wednesday, October 13, 2010

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This week on Inside PR, MartinGini and Joe talk about the recent changes to Facebook.

0:28 Martin opens the show.

2:25 Martin shares a comment from Yasin Sterling Akgun who asks Martin, Gini and Joe to discuss using blogs for press releases vs. print media.

3:02 Gini shares per perspective on the matter.

6:00 Joe thinks news releases are the best container for authoritative information.

9:15 Martin announces this week’s topic: the new changes in Facebook.

10:08 Gini references how Michael Arrington demonstrated the lack of control over the new group features by adding Mark Zuckerberg to a group without his approval or consent.

13:23 Joe says that since the last few privacy missteps from Facebook, he has cut back on his number of Facebook friends.

16:20 Martin finds it interesting that Facebook keeps introducing opt-out features despite negative reactions to previous opt-out features.

17:02 Joe isn’t as fond of Facebook as he once was.

19:19 Martin wraps up the show.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Yasmine Kashefi.

Inside PR 2.23 – Wednesday, October 6, 2010

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This week on Inside PR, MartinGini and Joe talk Twitter. #NewTwitter, that is.

0:23 Martin opens the show.

1:43 Martin announces the topic of this week’s show: Twitter’s new platform.

2:29 Gini tells us how she first started using Twitter.

3:31 Martin shares his introduction to Twitter and how his use of Twitter has changed over time.

6:53 Joe tells us about how he was first introduced to Twitter.

9:12 Gini mentions that she has never used Twitter.com and wonders if Joe and Martin use the website to access Twitter? Gini prefers using TweetDeck and HootSuite.

9:29 Joe uses the new Twitter app for the iPad. He uses TweetDeck on his desktop.

10:48 Martin uses the Twitter website and has gotten #NewTwitter. He does enjoy using HootSuite as well.

12:34 Joe asks if follower count matters?

14:50 Joe wonders if Klout really measures influence?

18:58 Martin asks Gini and Joe what it takes for them to follow people?

24:14 Joe wonders if Gini and Martin use Twitter differently from Facebook?

25:15 Joe asks Inside PR listeners how they use Twitter?

26:25 Martin wraps up the show.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Yasmine Kashefi.

Inside PR 2.22 – Wednesday, September 29, 2010

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0:26 Martin opens the show.

1:53 Martin announces that they will not being talking about New Twitter this week because a more current topic came along.

2:09 Martin shares a listener comment from Barbara Nixon about last week’s show and how she’s encouraging her students to listen.

2:53 The second comment comes from Mia Salituro who writes a blog about networking. She shares some tips for students around building your personal brand.

3:57 The last comment comes from Martin’s colleague at Energi PR, Sean Bailey. Sean asks what Martin, Gini and Joe’s stance is on “liking” or “following” a client’s competitor on Facebook and Twitter? Is it a form of monitoring, or is it different because it’s a public display of liking the competing brand? Martin ties Sean’s question into the recent Netflix ethical breach.

5:22 Gini answers Sean’s question and shares her perspective on the matter and she, Martin and Joe discuss.

14:33 Martin says that he hates the term “pr stunt”.

14:42 Gini shares why she’s not a fan of the term either.

16:10 Gini talks about a recent chat she participated in that connected bloggers with PR professionals that could offer them advice. Gini dispelled the rumour that PR firms only pay attention to A-list bloggers. It’s the job of the PR professional to find bloggers who are influential in their specific community or niche.

23:11 Martin says that as communicators, it’s important to read a lot of blogs and a lot of different kinds of blogs.

27:45 Martin closes the show.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Yasmine Kashefi.