Inside PR #155 – Wednesday, March 18, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman discuss managing a PR agency through the current economic recession.

00:28 Terry opens the show.

00:57 Housekeeping note: Terry explains why Inside PR #154 has not yet appeared on iTunes.

03:38 Martin introduces the show topic for this week: managing an agency through the recession.

03:54 Martin mentions that the show topic was partly inspired by Todd Defren’s recent blog post.

05:11 Martin mentions the Counselor’s Academy, an offshoot of The Public Relations Society of America, which is an organization geared toward PR agencies.

06:38 Terry begins a review of the ways in which agencies bill their clients and how that may change during a recession.

13:29 Terry introduces a discussion on the challenging concept of value billing.

20:08 Terry shares some techniques on cash-flow managment for PR agencies.

28:40 Terry opens a discussion about the most valuable resource any PR agency has: it’s people.

32:26 Terry gives Dave Fleet a shout-out for all his hard work at Thornley Fallis.

34:18 Terry announces that next week’s episode of Inside PR marks the show’s 3rd anniversary!

35:11 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #154 – Wednesday, March 11, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman have an in-depth conversation about PR accreditation.

00:25 Dave opens the show.

00:54 Dave introduces this week’s topic: Accreditation in the world of PR and the two major organizations that grant it.

01:44 Martin gives a quick 101 on the Canadian Public Relations Society APR designation, which he describes as similar, but not quite identical to the accreditation of the Public Relations Society of America.

06:05 Terry opens a discussion about the value of PR accreditation.

17:01 Terry discusses his interest in Edward Bernays and how he first learned about him while listening to the CBC’s radio show The Age of Persuasion, hosted by Terry O’Reilly.

18:24 Martin talks about James Grunig, a communications theorist, who has developed 4 major models of public relations.

19:40 Terry discusses the application requirements for the IABC’s ABC accreditation and compares it to the requirements of the CPRS program to pursue an APR.

21:30 Martin mentions that he and his fellow accreditation committee co-chair at the CPRS, Vince Power, act as facilitators of study groups for those who are pursuing their APR.

25:57 Terry thanks Shel Holtz for suggesting that a discussion of the APR should include comments about the IABC’s ABC accreditation.

26:29 Housekeeping note: Terry thanks Janna Guberman for loyally producing Inside PR these past few months and notes that the producer’s torch has been passed on to Sarah Laister.

27:14 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #153 – Wednesday, March 4, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman play catch-up with listener comments and discuss Skittles leap into the world of social media.

00:26 Terry opens the show.

01:05 Terry tells us that this week’s show will be devoted to a “comment round-up,” which will be followed by a specific topic near the end of the show.

01:46 Terry introduces the the first comment from Deborah Zanke, sole proprietor of a PR consultancy.

06:27 Terry welcomes an audio comment from Jeremy MacLaine, a student at Loyalist college.

08:05 In response to Jeremy’s question, Terry and Martin discuss the do’s and don’t’s of being an intern in the PR world.

11:35 Martin welcomes an audio comment from Volodymyr Dehtyarov of Nords PR Ukraine.

17:03 Terry introduces another comment that was left on the blog by Mike Keliher.

20:12 Martin wraps up the comment portion of the episode with two final comments from last week’s live episode, recorded at Podcamp Toronto.

20:29 Terry takes a moment to thank Podcamp organizers Dave Fleet, Jay Moonah and Eden Spodek for organizing such a great event.

21:57 Martin reads the second last comment of the show, submitted by a Boston PR firm.

22:15 Martin welcomes the final comment of the show from Sarah Bannoff.

23:09 Martin introduces a discussion about the new Skittles website.

25:18 Terry asks whether the net effect of Skittles bold leap into social media is positive or negative.

29:27 Both Terry and Martin agree that Skittles foray into social media will certainly be used as a case study amongst PR professionals in the future.

30:40 Terry asks Martin for his opinion on how Skittles could take their current experience with social media and turn it around.

32:04 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #152 – Wednesday, February 25, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman are podcasting live from Podcamp Toronto at Ryerson University and host the show as a Q & A session with their live audience.

00:29 Terry opens the show.

00:49 Terry reminds us that Inside PR is being recorded live at Podcamp Toronto which is held at Ryerson University.

00:57 Terry tells us the show topic will be determined by audience questions this week, with some focus on the role of social media within public relations.

01:42 Maureen McBride asks Terry, Dave and Martin for their opinion regarding the balance between traditional media and social media and how that balance is changing within the public relations field.

10:04 Dave asks the audience, specifically those who work in PR, what their biggest fear is when it comes to working within the social media space.

10:20 An audience member asks whether or not PR agencies understand the time sensitivity involved in engaging with social media, as opposed to the time allowances of working with traditional media.

15:16 Diana Spremo, an independent PR practitioner, asks Terry, Dave and Martin to define the social media press release.

16:18 Dave tells the audience that that Boris Spremo, Diana’s father, is a legendary photojournalist, who has worked for such publications as the Toronto Star.

19:48 Audience member Danny Brown asks if it might be time for PR to have a regulatory body.

25:05 Heather Robinson asks Terry, Dave and Martin as PR practitioners how they convince their clients to give social media a try.

31:53 Michelle Sullivan asks everyone what they think the future of traditional media might hold.

33:52 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #150 – Wednesday, February 11, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis discusses the main differences between agency work and corporate/in-house work within a PR department and welcomes comments from Julia Bae, Shel Holtz and Jermaine Stennett.

00:27 Terry opens the show.

01:36 Housekeeping: Terry reminds us about Third Tuesday Toronto on February 17, with Carol Leaman, the CEO of AideRSS hosting.

02:42 Terry reads a comment from Julia Bae, a PR student at Ryerson University.

06:14 Terry mentions that working with the Canadian Council Of Public Relations Firms, they’ve been getting together with Terry Flynn at DeGroote School of Business at McMaster and developing a few professional development modules for PR.

07:27 Terry introduces a comment from Shel Holtz about including IABC‘s ABC accreditation in the discussion of APR ref: Annette Martell.

08:54 Terry introduces a comment from Jermaine Stennett which provides the topic for today’s show: What is the main difference between agency work and corporate/in- house work within a PR department.

11:18 Terry discusses the agency side.

15:10 Terry talks about the client/corporate side.

20:40 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #149 – Wednesday, February 4, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss Todd Defren‘s post “Don’t Fire Your Agency for Performance (Before Reading This)” and welcome a comment from Sheldon Levine.

00:28 Dave opens the show.

01:09 Dave mentions that Third Tuesday Toronto is taking place on Tuesday February 17. The guest speaker is Carol Leaman, the CEO of AideRSS, the company behind PostRank.

02:18 Dave mentions that Leona Hobbs, who formally worked at Tucows, has accepted a position at Social Media Group as Director of Communications.

03:15 Terry introduces a comment from Sheldon Levine, a student at Seneca College, on IPR #147.

05:05 Terry notes that they will be doing a live recording of Inside PR at Podcamp Toronto which is taking place Feb 21st and 22nd at Ryerson University.

07:58 Martin mentions that he is the APR co-chair for Toronto.

09:05 Martin introduces the topic of discussion: Todd Defren‘s post “Don’t Fire Your Agency for Performance (Before Reading This)“.

20:22 Dave mentions some ways to make sure the agency/team is performing up to expectations.

23:00 Terry mentions the importance of checking in with your clients.

28:53 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #147 – Wednesday, January 21, 2009

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This week on Inside PR David Jones, and Martin Waxman present an interview done by Guy Skipworth. He talks with Kim Geiger, an intern at Scotiabank. They also welcome comments from Terry Flynn and Keith McArthur.

Show Notes:

00:26 Martin opens the show

01:00 Dave mentions some comments they have received. The first from Terry Flynn, on Inside PR #145’s mention of Paul Bates.

03:34 Dace introduces a comment from Keith McArthur.

04:08 Dave and Martin discuss Keith’s comment.

08:19 Martin introduces Guy Skipworth‘s interview with Kim Geiger.

09:02 Guy Skipworth interview’s Kim Geiger.

20:24 Martin discusses the interview and mentions what he looks for in an intern.

28:29 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #145 – Wednesday, January 7, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, and Martin Waxman discuss the notion of messages and messaging.

Show Notes:

00:27 Dave opens the show.

00:52 Dave congratulates Terry on the “Podcasting is Dead” show with Joe Jaffe.

02:18 Dave mentions Julie‘s farewell post.

02:44 Dave introduces the main topic of discussion: The notion of messages and messaging, based on what Phil Gomes of Edelman wrote on his blog.

15:12 Terry discusses the positive role of social media in messages in PR.

17:01 Dave brings up the topic of the ability to be an effective communicator or spokesperson.

21:29 Dave mentions Paul Bates as an example of an ideal spokesperson.

27:25 Dave wraps up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #142 – Wednesday, December 17, 2008

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, and Martin Waxman discuss how social media has changed the media landscape and ask if PR professionals can step up, understand this new environment  and honour the new strictures of social media while still serving the needs of their clients.

Show Notes:

00:26 Terry opens the show.

01:14 Terry discusses an email exchange that led to today’s topic: An exchange occurred recently between Ira Basen of CBC radio and Joe Thornley. This stemmed from a speech that Ira made at a Canadian Institute conference on Social Media, which Joe twittered. Joe presented this exchange on his blog. He also provides Ira’s speech on his blog.

02:59 Terry introduces today’s topic(s): How social media has changed the media landscape and Can PR professionals step up, understand this new environment and honour the new strictures of social media and still serve the needs of their clients?

04:41 Martin discusses the changing media landscape.

07:20 Terry discusses social media’s effect on the media landscape.

10:09 Dave discusses Ira’s speech and the notion of the editorial gatekeeper.

19:11 Terry discusses the idea of the gatekeeper.

20:20 Terry reads from Ira’s speech. ref: Jay Rosen.

23:42 Dave discusses Ira and his opinion of Pr practitioners.

27:30 Terry discusses Whirlpool’s American Family podcasts and social media.

30:04 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #141 – Wednesday, December 10, 2008

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This week on Inside PR David Jones, Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss how, in these turbulent times, an agency communicates with their employees on the inside.

Show Notes:

00:25 Dave opens the show.

01:00 Dave introduces the discussion issue for the show: Internal Communications.

01:19 Martin discusses how he came up with the show topic.

03:02 Martin introduces the show topic: In these turbulent times, how does an agency communicate with their employees on the inside?

03:37 Julie talks about 3 principles of internal communications 1) If implementing internal communications, it has to be with someone of authority, someone senior. 2)It has to be often 3) There has to be an action plan.

05:24 Dave discusses the importance of consistency.

13:47 Julie discusses not having closed-door meetings.

17:30 Martin talks about how he believes the recession will affect Generation Y.

18:12 Dave discusses Gen Y and the recession.

18:35 Julie gives her opinion on Gen Y and the effects of the recession.

21:25 Martin talks about how companies are using social media tools for internal communications.

24:54 Dave discusses Web 2.0 and internal communications and mentions two resources 1) Niall Cook, who has written a book about using Web 2.0 tactics within the enterprise. He also gave a talk about the topic at Third Tuesday Toronto in October.  and 2) Amanda Brewer, Director of Change & Internal Communications at Hill & Knowlton, who has started blogging.

26:37 Dave mentions Shel Holtz and how he has written a lot about Web 2.0 and internal communications.

27:21 Dave wraps up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.