Inside PR Summer Archives #2 – Wednesday, July 8, 2009

• • Inside PR, PR, Shownotes, social media

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David talk about the future of social media and PR’s place within it. Also, they welcome audio comments from Paull Young, Andrew Findlater, and Colin Douma. Chris Clarke contributes his weekly commentary. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:29 David introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through email at [email protected], the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:15 Terry wants to point listeners to an interview he did with Paull Young for the Forward Podcast.

03:12 Terry talks about his venture into the world of audio book podcasting with his novel The Best Laid Plans, this week with an offer to have his book listed on Podiobooks.

04:10 David talks about a possible new feature on Inside PR: phonecasting, which allows listeners to download podcasts to their cell phones.

05:15 David talks about a podcast interview he did with Eric Bergman about the MRP system he helped pioneer.

6:55 Terry kicks off this week’s batch of comments with an email from Michael Keliher. He talks about a promotional giveaway that listeners can enter here.

09:12 David introduces an audio comment from Andrew Findlater of National PR, who is in search of a social media savvy PR professional. Terry points out that his firm is also on the hunt for such PR pros.

14:10 Terry introduces an audio comment from Paull Young on Canada’s social media scene.

15:20 David introduces an audio comment from Colin Douma. Colin wonders what the future of PR, marketing, and social media are going to look like.

21:30 Terry and David use Colin’s question as this week’s main topic for discussion. Terry has a sense that there will be some change in communications as everyone tries to put a stake in social media. David thinks that the focus needs to be on the conversation and on the fact that we need not go through the media anymore. David asks the question: will marketing and PR change because of social media?

29:05 Terry adds that PR isn’t about selling, and that’s why he thinks we’re best suited to own social media.

31:58 Terry introduces Chris Clarke’s commentary this week.

35:28 Inside PRoper English: avoiding unnecessary “filler” words, phrases and cliches like “essentially,” “basically,” “at the end of the day,” and Terry’s favourite, “in terms of.”

37:50 Terry closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at [email protected], on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

Inside PR #161 – Wednesday, April 29, 2009

• • Agency Life, Ethics, Inside PR, PR

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This week on Inside PR David Jones and Martin Waxman share “war stories” from the world of public relations.

00:26 Martin opens the show.

01:30 Dave introduces this week’s topic: “war stories” from Martin and Dave’s collective past in the PR world.

01:58 Martin kicks off the show with the first story.

8:10 Dave shares a story about Molson’s fund raising concert for SARS– Molson Canadian Rocks Toronto or SARS Stock, as it was more commonly referred to.

15:51 Martin tells a story about an experience he had working with Yuk Yuk’s.

20:49 Dave tells the final story of the show from his time with the Royal Canadian Golf Association.

32:43 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #160 – Wednesday, April 22, 2009

• • Agency Life, Comments, Inside PR, Media relations, PR, social media

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman welcome questions and comments from listeners and discuss the role of customer service in public relations.

00:26 Terry opens the show.

01:19 Terry welcomes a question from Daniel D.

09:15 Martin tells us the short version of how Palette PR got its name.

12:36 Dave introduces another question from Ian Ross, former president of the CPRS Toronto Chapter.

14:18 Terry, Dave and Martin have an in-depth discussion about the role customer service plays on the agency side of public relations.

25:10 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #159 – Wednesday, April 15, 2009

• • Agency Life, Comments, Inside PR, PR, social media, Uncategorized

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman welcome questions and comments from listeners and discuss the topics that are brought up.

00:26 Dave opens the show.

01:23 Martin tells us this week’s show will be a “comment round-up”  and welcomes the first comment from Julie Rusciolelli.

03:44 Terry mentions what a wonderful time he had at the CPRS Pinnacle Awards Dinner (Hamilton Branch) and gives a shout-out to all the new Inside PR subscribers he met there.

05:09 Martin mentions that the CPRS Toronto Ace Awards are coming up on April 21st.

06:54 Dave introduces an audio comment from Deborah Zanke in response to a question asked by Crystal Klippenstein regarding the role of PR in the non-profit sector.

12:22 Terry comments on the importance of balancing promotion and protection when working with non-profit organizations.

13:30 Dave mentions that the Canadian founder of War Child is tweeting from a war zone in Africa and that it’s an excellent example of how non-profit organizations are embracing social media.

16:42 Terry introduces another audio comment from Barbara Nixon.

21:09 Dave, Terry and Martin discuss whether or not portfolios are important when applying for a job in public relations.

27:01 Dave, Terry and Martin all agree that having a blog can be a major asset when applying for jobs in the PR world.

29:25 Terry closes the show.

Production Note: This week’s rejoinder is courtesy of Grizzly’s Growls Podcast.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #158 – Wednesday, April 8, 2009

• • Agency Life, Inside PR, PR, social media

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss all things Twitter.

00:27 Terry opens the show.

01:22 Terry announces that he spoke at the Canadian Public Relations Society (Hamilton Branch) Pinnacle Awards dinner last night.

02:12 Terry mentions the immense amount of major media coverage Twitter has received in the past month.

03:22 Terry introduces the show topic for this week: the “usability” or pros and cons of Twitter on the agency and client side of public relations.

04:07 Dave and Marin have an in-depth discussion about how they use Twitter and what they like, or don’t like, about the tool.

18:02 Dave discusses the etiquette of following and being followed on Twitter.

20:55 Martin suggests that a tipping point with Twitter usage may be when a user goes from using the Twitter.com interface to using an application like Tweetdeck or Twirl.

24:49 Terry shifts the conversation to a discussion of how some organizations are using Twitter, with examples of how Twitter can work for the clients of PR agencies.

32:49 Dave talks about how successful Twitter can be at building professional relationships, citing his relationship to Antonia Zerbisias as an example.

34:43 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #157 – Wednesday, April 1, 2009

• • Agency Life, Awards, Comments, Inside PR, PR

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This week on Inside PR David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss awards season in the PR world and welcome comments from listeners.

00:28 Dave opens the show.

01:03 Martin welcomes a comment from Crystal Klippenstein, regarding the role of PR practioners in the non-profit sector.

03:15 Dave welcomes a comment from Karen Ashley, regarding the old Inside PR segment, Inside PRoper English.

06:07 Dave introduces this week’s topic: awards season in the world of PR, specifically the IABC awards and the CPRS awards.

10:14 Dave and Martin discuss the common weak points they have encountered within award submission packages.

13:17 Dave and Martin both agree the more specific your objectives are, the more likely your award submission is likely to stand out.

16:40 Dave opens a discussion about the reasons PR agencies enter their work for awards.

20:43 Dave thinks that creating a nicer looking award and a more exciting award ceremony are key to chalking up more interest in submitting for consideration.

23:51 Dave sums up the top three reasons most PR agencies enter themselves for award consideration.

26:43 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #156 – Wednesday, March 25, 2009

• • Agency Life, Comments, Inside PR, PR, social media

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman look back over the past three years of Inside PR, discuss the future of social media and welcome three listener comments.

00:28 Dave opens the show.

01:20 Terry introduces the Inside PR anniversary show clips from Episodes 1, 52 and 104.

03:53 Episode #1 clip starts.

05:46 Episode #52 clip starts.

08:20 Episode #104 clip starts.

11:11 Terry, Dave and Martin discuss the show clips and how the show has evolved in the past three years.

13:17 Terry reflects on the change in the concept of transparency and authenticity in the world of PR over the past few years.

18:18 Dave opens the question of whether or not first-mover advantage is one of the most important factors in social media.

19:07 Dave makes note of the fact that most Inside PR subscribers also listen to other PR podcasts, such as For Immediate Release and Six Pixels of Seperation.

22:18 Terry notes that while podcasts have not grown in popularity as quickly as he thought they might, many mainstream media outlets, such as the CBC and NPR, provide content in podcast form.

24:25 Dave mentions the difficulty that amatuer podcasters have in competing with mainstream podcasts hosted by people like Bill Maher and Adam Carolla.

26:42 Terry introduces a comment from Sallie Goetsch, founder of The Podcast Asylum.

27:21 Terry introduces a question from Kalene Morgan, a PR professor at Humber College.

31:55 Terry welcomes the final comment from Alison Farbar, who was introduced to Inside PR by Shel Holtz.

34:00 Terry asks Dave and Martin for their thoughts on how an individual can make the transition from the client side of PR to the agency side.

39:01 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #155 – Wednesday, March 18, 2009

• • Agency Life, Inside PR, PR

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman discuss managing a PR agency through the current economic recession.

00:28 Terry opens the show.

00:57 Housekeeping note: Terry explains why Inside PR #154 has not yet appeared on iTunes.

03:38 Martin introduces the show topic for this week: managing an agency through the recession.

03:54 Martin mentions that the show topic was partly inspired by Todd Defren’s recent blog post.

05:11 Martin mentions the Counselor’s Academy, an offshoot of The Public Relations Society of America, which is an organization geared toward PR agencies.

06:38 Terry begins a review of the ways in which agencies bill their clients and how that may change during a recession.

13:29 Terry introduces a discussion on the challenging concept of value billing.

20:08 Terry shares some techniques on cash-flow managment for PR agencies.

28:40 Terry opens a discussion about the most valuable resource any PR agency has: it’s people.

32:26 Terry gives Dave Fleet a shout-out for all his hard work at Thornley Fallis.

34:18 Terry announces that next week’s episode of Inside PR marks the show’s 3rd anniversary!

35:11 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #154 – Wednesday, March 11, 2009

• • Agency Life, Ethics, Inside PR, PR, Uncategorized

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman have an in-depth conversation about PR accreditation.

00:25 Dave opens the show.

00:54 Dave introduces this week’s topic: Accreditation in the world of PR and the two major organizations that grant it.

01:44 Martin gives a quick 101 on the Canadian Public Relations Society APR designation, which he describes as similar, but not quite identical to the accreditation of the Public Relations Society of America.

06:05 Terry opens a discussion about the value of PR accreditation.

17:01 Terry discusses his interest in Edward Bernays and how he first learned about him while listening to the CBC’s radio show The Age of Persuasion, hosted by Terry O’Reilly.

18:24 Martin talks about James Grunig, a communications theorist, who has developed 4 major models of public relations.

19:40 Terry discusses the application requirements for the IABC’s ABC accreditation and compares it to the requirements of the CPRS program to pursue an APR.

21:30 Martin mentions that he and his fellow accreditation committee co-chair at the CPRS, Vince Power, act as facilitators of study groups for those who are pursuing their APR.

25:57 Terry thanks Shel Holtz for suggesting that a discussion of the APR should include comments about the IABC’s ABC accreditation.

26:29 Housekeeping note: Terry thanks Janna Guberman for loyally producing Inside PR these past few months and notes that the producer’s torch has been passed on to Sarah Laister.

27:14 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #153 – Wednesday, March 4, 2009

• • canadian podcasting, Comments, Ethics, Inside PR, Media relations, News, Podcamp Toronto, PR, social media

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman play catch-up with listener comments and discuss Skittles leap into the world of social media.

00:26 Terry opens the show.

01:05 Terry tells us that this week’s show will be devoted to a “comment round-up,” which will be followed by a specific topic near the end of the show.

01:46 Terry introduces the the first comment from Deborah Zanke, sole proprietor of a PR consultancy.

06:27 Terry welcomes an audio comment from Jeremy MacLaine, a student at Loyalist college.

08:05 In response to Jeremy’s question, Terry and Martin discuss the do’s and don’t’s of being an intern in the PR world.

11:35 Martin welcomes an audio comment from Volodymyr Dehtyarov of Nords PR Ukraine.

17:03 Terry introduces another comment that was left on the blog by Mike Keliher.

20:12 Martin wraps up the comment portion of the episode with two final comments from last week’s live episode, recorded at Podcamp Toronto.

20:29 Terry takes a moment to thank Podcamp organizers Dave Fleet, Jay Moonah and Eden Spodek for organizing such a great event.

21:57 Martin reads the second last comment of the show, submitted by a Boston PR firm.

22:15 Martin welcomes the final comment of the show from Sarah Bannoff.

23:09 Martin introduces a discussion about the new Skittles website.

25:18 Terry asks whether the net effect of Skittles bold leap into social media is positive or negative.

29:27 Both Terry and Martin agree that Skittles foray into social media will certainly be used as a case study amongst PR professionals in the future.

30:40 Terry asks Martin for his opinion on how Skittles could take their current experience with social media and turn it around.

32:04 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.