Inside PR #136 – Wednesday, November 5, 2008

• • Agency Life, Comments, Inside PR, PR, Show Notes

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis , Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss how agencies manage when confronted with an economic downturn and welcome comments from Kalene Morgan, Francis Wooby and Volodymyr Dehtyarov.

Show Notes

00:27 Terry opens the show

02:37 Terry reminds us once again about Talk is Cheap, Centennial College‘s unconference, on November 12, where Inside PR will be recording a show in front of an audience.

04:22 Martin mentions that he will be on a panel that Joe Thornley organized with Trevor Campbell, President of Porter Novelli Canada, talking about what agencies are looking for in terms of social media from younger practitioners.

04:40 Terry introduces a comment from Kalene Morgan, a Public Relations professor at Humber College.

05:54 Terry introduces a second comment from Francis Wooby.

06:19 Francis Wooby leaves a comment about where social media falls in terms of being a tactic or a strategy.

07:11 Terry discusses Francis’ comment.

08:22 Terry introduces a third comment from Volodymyr Dehtyarov of Nords PR Ukraine in Kyiv, Ukraine, which sets up the topic for this weeks show.

09:45 Terry introduces the show topic: How do agencies manage when confronted with an economic downturn?

10:15 Terry mentions a post that Joe Thornley has written about steps Thornley Fallis is taking during these new economic realities.

13:36 Julie discusses how her company, MAVERICK, is handling things during the economic downturn.

17:22 Martin lends his perspective on dealing with the current economic situation.

21:44 Martin talks about clients’ reactions to the economic downturn.

22:26 Julie discusses clients’ reactions to the economic downturn.

23:43 Terry talks about clients’ reactions to the economic downturn.

24:53 Terry continues the discussion on clients’ reactions.

26:31 Julie talks about an agency that had to let go of over ten people in their Toronto office.

29:36 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #134 – Wednesday, October 22, 2008

• • gary schlee, Inside PR, Media relations, PR, Show Notes, social media

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This week on Inside PR David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss how to go about obtaining media and/or PR publicity as a small business.

Show Notes

00:26 Martin opens the show.

01:29 Martin mentions that Talk is Cheap, Centennial College‘s unconference is back in Toronto on November 12 and Inside PR will be recording a show at the conference in front of an audience.

02:31 Dave mentions Gary Schlee, who used to run the Talk is Cheap program.

07:53 Dave discusses the wiki he set up: socialmediacasestudies.wetpaint.com.

08:05 Dave mentions Peter Kim and his blog, with a list of (originally) 234 social media marketing examples and how it gave him the idea for his wiki.

09:39 Dave mentions people such as Maggie Fox at Social Media Group and Kate Trgovac who have provided social media marketing examples and links in the right way.

11:00 Martin talks to blogger relations.

11:16 Dave talks to blogger relations.

13:16 Dave gives a hat tip to Peter Kim and Dave Fleet. Dave started the Social Media Training Wiki on Wet Paint last year.

14:10 Martin introduces the show topic: How to go about obtaining media and/or PR publicity as a small business.

15:55 Dave mentions that you have to ask yourself if you are “F.B.O.” (the First, Best or Only). You have to ask yourself what your story is and how you are unique.

20:20 Martin discusses how to reach the people you want to reach (such as media people).

24:46 Dave discusses having modest expectations.

26:49 Dave mentions Mabel’s Labels, a company started by two women, that makes very durable labels for kids clothes, and how their mention on The View created word-of-mouth popularity for them.

28:10 Martin talks about trends.

30:17 Dave mentions the CBC show Dragon’s Den, where people come in and pitch their business ideas to potential investors.

31:45 Dave discusses another good idea to getting media/PR publicity; getting in touch with someone in the industry.

32:54 Dave summarizes the five ways small business can get publicity for themselves: 1) Figure out what your story is 2) Who do you want to reach? 3) Refine your pitch 4) Have modest expectations 5) Learn and recalibrate.

33: 39 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #133 – Wednesday, October 15, 2008

• • Inside PR, Media relations, News, PR, Show Notes, social media

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and David Jones continue to discuss the coverage of the current economic situation and how it relates to PR and media in Canada.

Show Notes

00:26 Dave opens the show.

01:56 Terry mentions the WKRP episode that featured the Thanksgiving “Turkey Drop”.

03:35 Dave mentions that the comment line for Inside PR is no longer being used. However if you would like to leave a comment you can record one and send it into [email protected].

04:10 Dave introduces the show topic: The coverage of the current economic situation and how it relates to PR and media in Canada.

07:10 Dave mentions that bigger PR agencies such as Hill & Knowlton, Edelman, Weber Shandwick and Burson-Marsteller are better equipped to handle economic downturns.

08:25 Terry talks about the importance of having a balance of clients in agencies.

09:00 Terry mentions that start-up companies are a little more anxious in these times.

09:33 Terry mentions a blog post on this by Todd Defren of the PR Squared blog.

12:52 Terry reads a line from Todd’s post, quoted from an article in the Harvard Business Review.

17:02 Terry mentions other things agencies can do in the current economic situation: No big investments, but continued marketing efforts.

23:19 Dave mentions the importance of putting your agency on the digital map, now, if possible.

29:08 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #132 – Wednesday, October 8, 2008

• • Government Relations, Inside PR, Media relations, News, Political communications, PR, Show Notes, social media

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, and Martin Waxman discuss the current state of the economy and the recent Canadian and US political debates.

Show Notes

00:27 Terry opens the show.

01:40 Martin introduces the topic of discussion: The current state of the economy.

02:26 Martin mentions Richard Edelman‘s blog post on how Secretary of Treasury Paulson, and others, have not done a good job of communicating this story.

02:43 Martin talks about putting media stories, such as this one, into human terms.

03:05 Terry talks to responsible reporting.

05:35 Dave talks about business reporting and the connection to PR: getting your message through.

07:34 Martin brings up the topic of Canadian media’s tendency to tag onto the bigger US stories.

16:18 Terry discusses the US Presidential debate.

18:26 Martin discusses the US Vice-Presidential debate.

20:34 Martin talks about a post by Giovanni Rodriguez of the hubbub blog, where he discusses how the VP candidates were trained too well.

21:37 Dave discusses the VP debate.

23:37 Terry discusses the recent Canadian Prime Minister debate.

32:37 Martin discusses the effects of the online world on politics.

33: 05 Dave discusses the online world and politics.

35:19 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #131 – Wednesday, October 1, 2008

• • Agency Life, Comments, Government Relations, Inside PR, Media relations, PR, Shownotes, social media

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, and Julie Rusciolelli define the broad scope of Public Relations and discuss the tactics that are involved in it.

Show Notes

00:33 Dave opens the show.

01:20 Housekeeping: Dave mentions that For Immediate Release, a bi-weekly podcast hosted by Neville Hobson and Shel Holtz, is having a listener contest to win tickets to one of two conferences, the first in Berlin, Germany at the end of October and the second in Los Angeles, California in November. To enter, upload a video (in any format, but do not email) that conveys a thought, a concept or an idea in imaginative ways.

03:17 Dave mentions that Third Tuesday is back in Toronto and Ottawa.
Niall Cook,  Worldwide Director of Marketing Technology at Hill and Knowlton will be at Third Tuesday Toronto on October 7 and Third Tuesday Ottawa on October 8 to discuss his book Enterprise 2.0.

05:17 Terry introduces a comment from Harvey Skolnick, a marketing professor at Sheridan College.

06:47 Harvey’s comment proposes a topic for the show: Defining how broad the scope of public relations actually is.

08:21 Terry introduces five major segments of PR: 1) Media Relations, 2) Government Relations, 3) Stakeholder Relations (alliance building), 4) Investor Relations and 5) Internal/Employee Communications.

08:48 Terry talks about Media Relations.

09:14 Terry discusses Government Relations.

10:05 Julie talks about Stakeholder Relations.

11:26 Julie discusses Investor Relations.

12:10 Terry discusses Investor Relations.

12:45 Dave talks about Internal/Employee Communications.

14:45 Dave introduces the subject of PR tactics and begins with the tactic of writing.

15:56 Julie discusses writing.

16:20 Julie talks about a second PR tactic; event management.

20:04 Terry discusses two other PR tactics; media intelligence and media preparedness.

22:40 Terry discusses the final PR tactic; social media and the online space.

27:18 Terry summarizes the show topic.

27:55 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #130 – Wednesday, September 24, 2008

• • Agency Life, Comments, Inside PR, PR, Show Notes, social media

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman discuss the topic of Word of Mouth, suggested by Bob Crawshaw of Maine Steet Marketing.

Show Notes

00:27 Terry opens the show.

2:24 Housekeeping: Terry introduces the first of two comments.
Brent Kinnaird at the Hamilton Port Authority left a comment about Inside PR # 129 not being up.
*Inside PR #129, is currently only available on some computers, but, for subscribers, is still available on Itunes. We are looking into it.*

5:16 Terry introduces the second comment from Bob Crawshaw of Maine Steet Marketing, who suggests that Inside PR discuss Word of Mouth (WOM).

10:06 Terry mentions WOM expert Sean Moffitt who runs Agent Wildfire.

10:33 Martin talks about WOM.

11:03 Terry talks about WOM.

11:56 Terry reads from Agent Wildfire’s website.

12:49 Terry mentions research on trust and gives the example of the Edelman Trust Barometer.

14:05 Martin talks about WOM in terms of Social Networking sites such as LinkedIn and Twitter.

17:41 Martin mentions that anyone who is interested in WOM should read Malcolm Gladwell‘s book, The Tipping Point.

22:50 Terry mentions Sean Moffitt’s involment with WOMMA and his blog Buzz Canuck.

23:45 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #129 – Wednesday, September 17, 2008

• • Agency Life, Comments, Inside PR, PR, Show Notes, social media

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This week on Inside PR Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss the reasons they began their PR businesses, Palette Public Relations and MAVERICK and the five signs you should start your own PR business.

Show Notes

00:26 Martin opens the show

02:11 Martin introduces the show topic: Why you would want to start a PR business and the signs that you should start a PR business.

02:58 Martin introduces the first sign: When you love your job but hate going into work

05:44 Julie discusses the second sign: When your job becomes too easy and you feel as though you are almost on autopilot

06:38 Martin discusses the third sign: Taking the little things too seriously

10:09 Julie introduces the fourth sign: Culture shock: the culture you want to create is at odds with that of the existing agency

14:08 Martin discusses the last sign: An entrepreneurial calling

20:09 Martin recaps the five signs you should start your own PR business.

21:20 Martin and Julie close the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #128 – Wednesday, September 10, 2008

• • Inside PR, measurement, Media relations, PR, Show Notes, social media

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This week on Inside PR Terry, Martin and Julie discuss the tools they use for time tracking, media monitoring, media list development, project management, subscriptions and podcasts and welcome a comment from Volodymyr Dehtyarov of Nords PR Ukraine in Kyiv, Ukraine.

Show Notes

00:28 Terry opens the show.

01:25 Terry introduces a comment from Volodymyr Dehtyarov.

02:58 Volodymyr Dehtyarov comments on how Inside PR should discuss the topic of the tools PR agencies use to manage their time and bill their clients.

05:09 Terry introduces the show topic: The tools PR agencies use for time tracking, media monitoring, media list development, project management, subscriptions and podcasts.

06:16 Martin discusses the first category; time tracking.

08:56 Julie talks to time tracking.

11:42 Terry talks to time tracking.

18:50 Terry introduces the next category; media monitoring tools.

19:07 Julie discusses her preferred tools for media monitoring.
1. Google
2. Infomart
3. Cision

21:28 Martin talks to media monitoring.

25:19 Terry introduces the third category; media list development tools such as MediaNetCentral.

26:10 Martin talks to media list tools.

28:22 Julie talks to media list tools.

29:39 Martin discusses subscription tools including Media Relations Rating Points.

30:58 Julie talks to project management tools she uses.

32:35 Terry discusses the tools used to produce Inside PR such as Audacity and Libsyn.

34:13 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #125 – Wednesday, August 20, 2008

• • Comments, Inside PR, Media relations, Political communications, PR, Show Notes

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This week on Inside PR, David Jones and Julie Rusciolelli talk about key messages and welcome comments from Nathaniel Reagan and Robert Moffat.

Show Notes

00:30 Dave introduces the show.

01:56 Dave reads a comment from Nathaniel Ragan.

04:58 Dave reads a comment from Robert Moffat.

05:53 Dave introduces the main topic of discussion for this Inside PR.

06:50 Julie talks about her interview with Patricia Lovett-Reid on Money Talk of BNN. The interview will air August 25, 2008.

11:23 Dave describes what a key message is.

15:13 Dave reviews steps to writing Key Messages:

15:56 Planning

19:05 Assembling the facts/proof points

20:51 Testing the messages

22:35 Rehearsing the conversation

27:16 Training the spokes person on the Key Points

31:10 Dave talks about Q&A documents.

33:16 Dave sums up the steps to writing key messages.

34:54 Dave wraps up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

Inside PR #123 – Wednesday, August 7, 2008

• • Agency Life, Inside PR, PR, Show Notes

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This week on Inside PR, David Jones, Terry Fallis and Julie Rusciolelli discuss the market reality for talent in agencies.

Show Notes

00:29 Dave opens the show.

01:42 Dave starts the conversation about the reality of the market for agency talent.

04:19 There are four core responsibilities in the agency market: account service, account management, account leadership and agency leadership.

04:58 Dave summarizes account services responsibilities.

08:12 Terry begins the talk on account management.

13:58 Dave defines the account management responsibilities.

15:13 The panel discusses the account leader and account leadership.

26:22 Dave sums up with group and agency leadership and the ultimate responsibility of being in these roles.

33:18 Terry wraps up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.